“they” (1 word) is shorter than “he or she” (3 words)
“they” is more inclusive than “he/she”
“themself” flows more naturally than “him or herself”
“they” is less clunky than “(s)he”
it’s time to replace the awkward “she or he”
“hey can you go ask they what does they want for dinner, and when is they coming over to watch movies with they?”
“Hey, can you go ask them what they want for dinner, and when they’re coming over to watch movies?”
Step one is learning how to talk like a human person.
Friendly reminder:
“I shouldn’t like to punish anyone, even if they’d done me wrong.” —George Eliot, The Mill on the Floss (1860)
“A person can’t help their birth.” —William Thackeray, Vanity Fair (1848)
“But to expose the former faults of any person, without knowing what their present feelings were, seemed unjustifiable.” —Jane Austen, Pride and Prejudice (1813)
“Every Fool can do as they’re bid.” —Jonathan Swift, Polite Conversation (1738)
“So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.” —King James Bible, Matthew 18:35 (transl. 1611)
“God send every one their heart’s desire!” —William Shakespeare, Much Ado About Nothing (~1600)
“Now this king did keepe a great house, that euerie body might come and take their meat freely.” —Sir Philip Sidney, the Arcadia (1580)
“If … a psalme scape any person, or a lesson, or els yt they omyt one verse or twayne…” —William Bonde, The Pylgrimage of Perfection (1526)
“And whoso fyndeth hym out of swich blame, / They wol come up and offre a Goddés name” —Geoffrey Chaucer, The Pardoner’s Tale (~1380)
“þan hastely hiȝed eche wiȝt on hors & on fote, / huntyng wiȝt houndes alle heie wodes, / til þei neyȝþed so neiȝh to nymphe þe soþe [Then hastily hied each person on horse and on foot / hunting with hounds all the high woods / ‘til they came so near, to tell the truth]” —William and the Werwolf (transl. ~1350-1375)
“Bath ware made sun and mon, / Aiþer wit þer ouen light [Both were made sun and moon / Either with their own light]” —Cursor Mundi (~1325)
We’ve been using they/them/their pronouns to indicate a person with unspecified gender for a long ass fucking time. The only reason it’s become a big issue lately is because it can be used as a semi-respectful term for trans and non-binary folks and we can’t have that can we
These fucks are literally trying to change our language to hurt trans/nb folks, and claiming that’s just the way its always been
not to sound crass but sometime i hate that i have to like, care abt cis people’s comfort? coddle them when they struggle with pronouns and promise them it’s alright when they mess up and blah blah blah just. no, actually, it’s not alright, i don’t care that you’re struggling and i promise you that i am far, far more upset when you ‘accidentally’ misgender me than you could ever be when i correct you. fuck cis comfort for once
It gets tiring hearing about how “hard” it is for them to give you basic respect. It gets really fucking tiring.
I shouldn’t have to constantly tell you, please use my pronouns, and listen to you gripe about how difficult it is for you.
Honestly, fuck you if you do that.
if a person can respect a fucking dog’s pronouns they can respect another humans pronouns. there is literally no other explanation than being an asshole, sorry but we don’t make the rules
there is no medical component to a trans kid transitioning
if a little trans boy comes out to his parents & is like 4 all youd do for his transition is cut his hair, buy a new wardrobe, & switch pronouns & possibly change names
no one is gonna put a little 4 year old on testosterone OR puberty blockers until theyre actually about to start puberty & then they give them a few years to really decide if they want to start hormones
a trans kid existing isnt “child abuse.”
child abuse is refusing to let your kid live their lives as they truly are & forcing them to present as a gender they arent
radfems who interact with this post will be blocked & your argument will not be read or even considered. i do not care about the opinion of a transphobe & my original post still stands.
just to be clear, you can be trans and still wear clothing traditionally associated with your birth-assigned gender. you can be a boy and wear a dress. you can be a girl and don “boyish” clothes. clothing ≠ gender. if a cis guy wears makeup and a skirt, it doesn’t make him any less a man. the same goes for trans people. it’s transphobic to hold transgender people to a higher standard for their gender expression than cis people. trans women don’t owe you hyper-femininity. trans men don’t owe you extreme masculinity. to say otherwise is bigoted and gross. just wear what makes you happy and leave people alone.
CIS PEOPLE ARE SO UNREAL BRO……..i made a “im epic and sexy and my meat is huge” joke to one of my cis friends and she just said “well youre trans so you dont HAVE meat” like ok….first of all its a joke and second of all its a joke
i hate it tho like other cis girls can say “suck my dick” as a joke and they dont have to specify that its a joke and that they dont actually have a dick but the moment i, a trans person, want to make a joke about it then it becomes a whole thing about how i dont REALLY have meat and i actually have a pussy like ok.
honestly the fact that other trans ppl are rbing/saying that theyve had a similar experience makes me so sad i hate cis ppl
its surreal because i see cis women say “suck my dick” all the time but if a trans man says it suddenly everyone needs to talk about how he doesn’t have a dick and if a trans woman says it suddenly she’s being creepy and innappropriate
So, letting people be who they want to be is a good thing. That’s shocking I tell you, just shocking. All I want to know is, how much time and money went into this research when you could’ve just asked trans folks how they felt for free
okay, A: they didask. they did listen. like… I don’t wanna exaggerate here but “asking trans kids how they feel” is literally the entire study:
“children (9–14 years old) and their parents completed measurements of depression and anxiety (n = 63 transgender children, n = 63 controls, n = 38 siblings). Children (6–14 years old; n = 116 transgender children, n = 122 controls, n = 72 siblings) also reported on their self-worth”
and B: this isn’t the kind of study researchers do because “oh gosh we just aren’t really sure yet, we really just don’t know”, they do it because cis people have been sitting on their asses for decades ignoring anything that’s not an Official Scientific Study, so they said “okay fuck you, here’s the study, you’re wrong, now do something helpful or shut the hell up”
#Thank you #I’m super over this smug ‘yeah we knew that’ response to studies #I mean I get the impulse to go ’…yes and water is wet thanks captain obvious’ #But the thing is that you *need* this kind of hard data in order to act on it #Which is actually a good thing #BC ‘we don’t need no stinkin science’ policies based on ‘we just Know This ok don’t ask for our data just shut up and do it’ #Is how you get anti choice laws based in pseudoscience and religious belief #And climate change not being addressed in law and policy #Besides. Just think how satisfying it is to throw hard data in some asshole’s face to counter their claims.
Scientist: Treating trans people like people is the way to make them happy. Cis Person: Yeah but…………how do we KNOW? Scientist: *sighs* can I have a grant to study it? Cis Person: Sure. Scientist: Hey, Trans Person, would you be happier if people treated you like people? Trans Person: Of course. Scientists:
Specifically, this study can now be used in medical offices and courtrooms. A trans kid’s parent can take this study to their bigoted local doctor and say “see, this is why you should either treat my kid or give us a referral to a doctor who will.” Or this can be taken into various legal proceedings about name changes, birth certificate changes/corrections, and custody hearings where it becomes necessary to prove to a judge that yes, helping the kid transition (and perhaps leaving the kid with the parent/guardian who is willing to help) is what is best for the kid.
These kinds of studies are exactly what we want, folks. Don’t knock it just because it’s something you already knew.
“These kinds of studies are exactly what we want, folks. Don’t knock it just because it’s something you already knew.”
We already knowed it, we just had to prove it – don’t knock the proof.
Medical studies are important for legal cases!
Say, one parents supports transitioning, the other doesn’t. If there is a battle for custody a medical study can be used to prove the child should be given to the parent that supports them.
Also considering how often transphobes and bigots will promote anecdotal stories as hard evidence that transition hurts trans people and makes us unhappy, yeah, a study like this is super important.
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