You sound like a fandom pearl-clutcher who hasn’t been through one of these purges. I have been through SEVERAL.
Each time this happens, we split up–some may go to pillowfort, some may go to twitter, some may go to dreamwidth, some may go to discord, some will stay right here, and some will leave us forever.
What you don’t seem to understand is that we’re being divided. People will lose long-lasting relationships over this, having their blogs deleted and losing any ability to find each other again. I had loads of friends during the more livelier times of LiveJournal, and I couldn’t find them ever again, no matter how hard I tried.
These kind of events harm people, turn off countless creators who can and will lose the content they have worked tirelessly over because it’s not saved elsewhere. Have you ever lost a laptop to a crash? It’s this, but in WIDE SCALE. I have thousands upon thousands of words and drawings forever lost to LiveJournal and FFnet’s banishments, things I worked so hard on, and I know countless others have experienced the same.
It’s also not just porn being affected. It’s everything that isn’t squeaky fucking clean for little children. The female nipple, consensual sex, ART IN GENERAL. Censorship is a slippery fucking slope, even on a private website like this, and you’re supporting the silence of people who have worked hard through their lifetimes on the things they love.
so fuck you
This is definitely not the way to act to an anon who’s simply saying they’re glad they don’t have to scroll and randomly see p*rn in the tags.
Hey op, just curious, I know you’re upset and that censory is a slippery slope, but have you read the terms and what’s allowed vs what’s not allowed? They make it rather clear.
You seriously think tumblr is only killing porn?
You seriously think any of these posts deserve to be flagged, those people’s tumblr’s threatened to be banned?
OP has every right to be pissed because anon is, as well as you are, missing the point.
Hey, they’re flagging those because they suck at coding and are trying to use a bot. It’s not malicious or done by a person. If the bot is still this bad in two weeks you can be mad, but until then.. I’m glad I won’t have to worry about seeing porn anymore!!!!
Please stop acting like Tumblr is flagging this stuff /on purpose/ it’s a mistake.
Should they fix it? Yes? Will they, knowing staff? Likely not. Does that annoy me? Yes, quite a bit. But I’m not stupid enough to think staff is doing it /maliciously/.
Tumblr only meant to kill porn. Not everything on the website.
Seriously guys. Learn to read. They just intended to ban actual porn.
If a fandom friendship or person is important to you, get a contact/account somewhere. To imply you have to lose relationships over this is just stupid and dramatic.
I personally don’t have a Pillowfort account yet, but my partner does and she has let me look at her account fully to see what it is like. I’ve also viewed Pillowfort’s demo account which is linked to on their Kickstarter. I am waiting with anticipation when I can make my own account, but right now Pillowfort is in a closed beta which means the only people who have access to the site are ones who have been given special registration links. They were doing waves of free beta accounts a bit ago (which is how my partner got her account), but right now for every $5 you pledge to their Kickstarter you will receive a registration key if the Kickstarter gets fully funded (they are as of today 40% of the way to their $39,900 goal).
Here is why I’m excited for Pillowfort:
If you delete your original posts, every reblogged version will be deleted too. Edit your original post and the changes will appear on every reblog,
The ability to make posts visible to everyone, just followers, just mutuals, or just yourself.
A functional blacklist where you can blacklist a post body & tags or just tags.
A terms of service that explicitly states you hold all rights to your own intellectual property. It also states clearly that it forbids callout posts, doxxing, degradation, harassing, hate groups, spamming of tags with unrelated or offensive material, and slurs against minorities. If there is a user that is doing anything offensive or hateful, it is encouraged and mandated you don’t make posts about it and instead flag it and let the site moderators take care of it. This sort of system cuts down on “dashboard drama” and harassment that sites like Tumblr are known for.
They have threaded comments which means discussions or praise no longer clog up your posts and your blog, keeping things much more organized and clean. We can also use tags for their ACTUAL purpose, tagging of posts for ease of search and organization instead of talking.
They have communities and a more connected user-based and user-led environment.
Posts in chronological order like they should be!
A staff that actually cares about the input of their members and is driven to listen and collaborate with their members to create a site that the users actually want instead of being led by a corporation that has their own agendas in mind.
A staff that wants to avoid corporate involvement, unwanted ads, and selling of user info to fund Pillowfort.
The future possibilities of what the staff can do with the site that we didn’t dream could be possible to have all in one place including accessibility and a functional mobile app.
So far, I’ve seen a lot of good things and I’ve been really impressed with how the staff is handling the site and how they have explained their plans for the future of Pillowfort.
If you say you really want a social media site that actually cares about their users, this is it. This is your chance to have what pretty much all of us want. This new blogging platform is all the best parts of Tumblr (and for those who miss Livejournal this is like a wedding between Tumblr and Livejournal) with all the parts we hate and loathe about the site scraped out of it.
If you can’t support Pillowfort monetarily, then please, please reblog, tweet, share, and spread it about everywhere you can.
This is our chance to have a social media made with us in mind and it’s already starting out so well with 10,000 users in the closed beta. Let’s bring it to the next stage of its life!
Speaking as someone whose parents and family members still refuse to be persuaded to keep their cats inside, if your cat dies as a result of being allowed to roam freely, whether hit by a car or killed by another animal or disease or whatever, that’s 100% on you. The owner of the cat is responsible for the death of that animal as surely as if they killed it themselves because it was completely preventable. This makes people upset to hear, but you can’t claim to love something in one breath and then completely abandon them to the many dangers of the world in the next. If you love your pet you do everything in your power to keep it safe.
We need to keep saying “what happens to an outdoor cat is 110% the owners fault” until owners realize this. That person who hit the cat probably already felt horrible and if they couldn’t stop, they couldn’t stop. They didn’t mean “I was too busy, I couldn’t care to stop” they were literally saying “they could not physically stop the car in time to not hit the cat”. It was never their fault, and it wasn’t the cat’s either because they don’t know any better. It’s 110% the owners fault and I’m going to keep saying it until every horrible cat owner puts there cat back inside where it belongs.
Also think about your kids if you don’t care for the cat. How do you think that 9 year old, who didn’t know outdoor cats were bad, felt? They had no idea this would happen because of their ignorant parents. Their parents ended a life and damaged their child’s. This is a traumatizing event for a young child. And it’s so unfair for everyone involved… Except the parent obviously.
Just keep your damn cat inside or do an actual humane thing and just don’t fucking get one.
K all of this makes sense, but cats are meant to roam and play. You SHOULD let your cat outside, at least into the backyard if you feel safer that way, so they can get the excersize they need to live a happy life. Also, this play time ensures that the cat’s extra energy burns (mostly) off and they won’t destroy your belongings because they’re just so. bored. that they scratch things. Train it to walk on a leash if you have to, but let your cats outside.
Although contained outdoor time or walks on a leash are good enrichment they’re not a necessity, cats can thrive without ever being allowed outside in any capacity.
If your cat is bored and destructive inside it’s because you are not engaging in enough interactive play to keep them entertained, it’s because you are not providing them with enough environmental enrichment to meet their needs.
I should be going to sleep but I’m a sucker so I’m going to break this down instead.
Cats require exercise, this is integral to both their physical and emotional wellbeing. Permitting them unrestricted outdoor access can absolutely meet their exercise needs, but it is not safe to do so, and as their caregivers we must balance their health and their happiness instead of choosing one over the other.
The reason there’s this misconception of indoor cats being bored and depressed, which can lead to inactivity and weight gain, or destructive is because cat owners do not play with their cats enough.
Only 64% of the owners in this study played with their cats twice a day, of that a meager 25% reported 10 minute play sessions. It was also reported that the cats with 5 minute play sessions displayed fewer behavioral problems than those with 1 minute play sessions.
Engage your cat! There’s this huge misconception that cats are low maintenance pets, they’re aloof and independent and they’ll take care of themselves and that’s not true! They need more from than to leave out some toys and scoop their box.
Jane Ehrlich, from the cat division of the International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants, recommends multiple 20 minute sessions of real interactive play each day. A key term here is real, behaviorist Pam-Johnson Bennett has an article on proper interactive play with cats, it’s important to be involved and to let them complete the sequence of the kill.
Environmental enrichment matters too! Outdoors your cat doesn’t just get exercise stalking prey [or running from loose dogs, fighting other cats, etc] you’ll often see them climbing trees, atop of fences, and so on.
“”Not everyone can do this!”” Interactive play and environmental enrichment are the minimum standards of care for a cat, if you’re unable to meet the bare minimum standards of care for an animal you should not have that pet. You are not owed a cat, you are not entitled to one, if you’re unable to adequately provide for a cat than do not have a cat.
There are people who work full-time jobs, who work multiple jobs, who attend school, who live with mental and/or physical disabilities, who live in small apartments, who have a low income, etc. and are still able to meet their cats needs. I know because many of my followers fall into one, or more, of the aforementioned categories.
Cats are a menace to the environment. This pertains to the persons tags, the damage domestic cats do to the environment is so well documented I can’t believe people still try to deny it. Them again, there are still people who deny climate change, so I guess it isn’t too suprising.
There’s not only the issue of mortality due to predation, but cat saliva is full of pathogens that birds, reptiles, and rodents are sensitive to. Even if a captured prey-item is alert and unharmed to the untrained eye they may still die later as a result of being exposed to these pathogens, as a result of the stress of being predated upon, or as a result of internal trauma that can’t be detected without being seen by a wildlife veterinarian.
You’ll often hear outdoor cat proponents claim it’s feral cats that are an ecological disaster, not their beloved Fluffy, but I’ve broken down before how owned free-roaming cats are far from blameless.
Speaking as someone whose parents and family members still refuse to be persuaded to keep their cats inside, if your cat dies as a result of being allowed to roam freely, whether hit by a car or killed by another animal or disease or whatever, that’s 100% on you. The owner of the cat is responsible for the death of that animal as surely as if they killed it themselves because it was completely preventable. This makes people upset to hear, but you can’t claim to love something in one breath and then completely abandon them to the many dangers of the world in the next. If you love your pet you do everything in your power to keep it safe.
We need to keep saying “what happens to an outdoor cat is 110% the owners fault” until owners realize this. That person who hit the cat probably already felt horrible and if they couldn’t stop, they couldn’t stop. They didn’t mean “I was too busy, I couldn’t care to stop” they were literally saying “they could not physically stop the car in time to not hit the cat”. It was never their fault, and it wasn’t the cat’s either because they don’t know any better. It’s 110% the owners fault and I’m going to keep saying it until every horrible cat owner puts there cat back inside where it belongs.
Also think about your kids if you don’t care for the cat. How do you think that 9 year old, who didn’t know outdoor cats were bad, felt? They had no idea this would happen because of their ignorant parents. Their parents ended a life and damaged their child’s. This is a traumatizing event for a young child. And it’s so unfair for everyone involved… Except the parent obviously.
Just keep your damn cat inside or do an actual humane thing and just don’t fucking get one.
K all of this makes sense, but cats are meant to roam and play. You SHOULD let your cat outside, at least into the backyard if you feel safer that way, so they can get the excersize they need to live a happy life. Also, this play time ensures that the cat’s extra energy burns (mostly) off and they won’t destroy your belongings because they’re just so. bored. that they scratch things. Train it to walk on a leash if you have to, but let your cats outside.
Although contained outdoor time or walks on a leash are good enrichment they’re not a necessity, cats can thrive without ever being allowed outside in any capacity.
If your cat is bored and destructive inside it’s because you are not engaging in enough interactive play to keep them entertained, it’s because you are not providing them with enough environmental enrichment to meet their needs.
I should be going to sleep but I’m a sucker so I’m going to break this down instead.
Cats require exercise, this is integral to both their physical and emotional wellbeing. Permitting them unrestricted outdoor access can absolutely meet their exercise needs, but it is not safe to do so, and as their caregivers we must balance their health and their happiness instead of choosing one over the other.
The reason there’s this misconception of indoor cats being bored and depressed, which can lead to inactivity and weight gain, or destructive is because cat owners do not play with their cats enough.
Only 64% of the owners in this study played with their cats twice a day, of that a meager 25% reported 10 minute play sessions. It was also reported that the cats with 5 minute play sessions displayed fewer behavioral problems than those with 1 minute play sessions.
Engage your cat! There’s this huge misconception that cats are low maintenance pets, they’re aloof and independent and they’ll take care of themselves and that’s not true! They need more from than to leave out some toys and scoop their box.
Jane Ehrlich, from the cat division of the International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants, recommends multiple 20 minute sessions of real interactive play each day. A key term here is real, behaviorist Pam-Johnson Bennett has an article on proper interactive play with cats, it’s important to be involved and to let them complete the sequence of the kill.
Environmental enrichment matters too! Outdoors your cat doesn’t just get exercise stalking prey [or running from loose dogs, fighting other cats, etc] you’ll often see them climbing trees, atop of fences, and so on.
“”Not everyone can do this!”” Interactive play and environmental enrichment are the minimum standards of care for a cat, if you’re unable to meet the bare minimum standards of care for an animal you should not have that pet. You are not owed a cat, you are not entitled to one, if you’re unable to adequately provide for a cat than do not have a cat.
There are people who work full-time jobs, who work multiple jobs, who attend school, who live with mental and/or physical disabilities, who live in small apartments, who have a low income, etc. and are still able to meet their cats needs. I know because many of my followers fall into one, or more, of the aforementioned categories.
Cats are a menace to the environment. This pertains to the persons tags, the damage domestic cats do to the environment is so well documented I can’t believe people still try to deny it. Them again, there are still people who deny climate change, so I guess it isn’t too suprising.
There’s not only the issue of mortality due to predation, but cat saliva is full of pathogens that birds, reptiles, and rodents are sensitive to. Even if a captured prey-item is alert and unharmed to the untrained eye they may still die later as a result of being exposed to these pathogens, as a result of the stress of being predated upon, or as a result of internal trauma that can’t be detected without being seen by a wildlife veterinarian.
You’ll often hear outdoor cat proponents claim it’s feral cats that are an ecological disaster, not their beloved Fluffy, but I’ve broken down before how owned free-roaming cats are far from blameless.
“Snakes. Why’d it have to be snakes?” – Indiana Jones in Raiders of the Lost Ark
Humans often fear what they don’t understand and to most, snakes are a mystery. Snakes rely on crypsis so even when traversing through their world, we rarely see them. This void of direct knowledge is filled by myth and media, which portray snakes as cold-blooded killers and focus on how deadly and dangerous they are. It’s no surprise then that snakes provoke one of the most common phobias, even in the United States where we lack truly deadly serpents.
Though threatened by many of the same issues that affect other wildlife, including habitat loss, climate change, and disease, negative attitudes may be the biggest barrier to snake conservation because it often impedes efforts to address other threats.
For example, public outcry based on fear and misinformation recently halted a scientifically-sound conservation plan for timber rattlesnakes. A similar project at the same location was embraced by the community; but that project involved releasing eagles. Rattlesnakes are no less iconic or important to the ecosystem than eagles. In fact, they may help reduce the incidence of Lyme disease, which affects tens of thousands of people in the United States each year, by reducing the number of rodents that harbor this disease. But facts often play second fiddle to emotions where snakes are concerned.
Snakes are important components of biodiversity, serving as both predators and prey in nearly every ecosystem on earth. Some of the most feared and hated snakes (vipers, a group which includes rattlesnakes) may be the most effective predators on fluctuating prey populations. Unlike most predators, vipers are not territorial; they often share dens to escape freezing winter temperatures and select hunting sites where others have been successful. They live in greater densities than mammal and bird predators, as much as 100-1000 times denser than their mammalian competitors. Infrequent reproductive events (most give birth only once every two to three years) and their ability to fast make them resilient to prey population crashes. So they can have a greater impact on their prey, including those that can spread disease to humans, than their mammalian or avian counterparts.
But snakes are worth saving not because of what they can do for us, but because of who they are.
Adrian, a pregnant Arizona black rattlesnake guards one of her nestmates’ newborns. Photographed by Melissa Amarello.
Snakes, specifically rattlesnakes, share many behaviors with us, behaviors that we value. They have friends. They take care of their kids and their friends’ kids too. Within a community of Arizona black rattlesnakes, individuals do not associate randomly; they have friends (pairs of rattlesnakes observed together more often expected by chance) and individuals they appear to avoid. Mother rattlesnakes keep newborns from straying too far from the nest during the first few days of their lives, only gradually letting them explore farther as they approach time to leave the nest at 10-14 days old. They also defend their young from threats such as squirrels, who harass and may even kill newborns. But mothers aren’t the only ones caring for newborn rattlesnakes — still-pregnant females sharing the communal nest and even visiting males and juveniles assist with parental duties. Yet these gentle, caring parents are subjected to some of the most horrible treatment of any animal.
Each year, tens of thousands of rattlesnakes are taken from the wild to be displayed and slaughtered for entertainment and profit at rattlesnake roundups, which occur throughout Texas, Oklahoma, Georgia, and Alabama. Promoted as folksy, family-friendly fun, these events foster disrespect for native wildlife and the natural world, and are a gross example of wildlife management based on fear, rather than science. Professional hunters, not bound by ‘bag’ or ‘take’ limits, remove snakes from their native habitats and are awarded with cash prizes for bringing in the most and biggest snakes. Most snakes are caught by pouring gasoline into their winter dens, which pollutes surrounding land and water and may impact up to 350 other wildlife species. Rattlesnake roundups depend on the public’s misconception of snakes as dangerous pests that we cannot safely tolerate near our homes. No aspect of these events is sustainable, educational, or necessary.
If promoters and attendees of rattlesnake roundups knew what snakes are really like, would these events continue — who wants to kill a mom or someone’s friend?
World Snake Day is an opportunity to celebrate snakes and raise awareness about their conservation.
“Snakes. Why’d it have to be snakes?” – Indiana Jones in Raiders of the Lost Ark
Humans often fear what they don’t understand and to most, snakes are a mystery. Snakes rely on crypsis so even when traversing through their world, we rarely see them. This void of direct knowledge is filled by myth and media, which portray snakes as cold-blooded killers and focus on how deadly and dangerous they are. It’s no surprise then that snakes provoke one of the most common phobias, even in the United States where we lack truly deadly serpents.
Though threatened by many of the same issues that affect other wildlife, including habitat loss, climate change, and disease, negative attitudes may be the biggest barrier to snake conservation because it often impedes efforts to address other threats.
For example, public outcry based on fear and misinformation recently halted a scientifically-sound conservation plan for timber rattlesnakes. A similar project at the same location was embraced by the community; but that project involved releasing eagles. Rattlesnakes are no less iconic or important to the ecosystem than eagles. In fact, they may help reduce the incidence of Lyme disease, which affects tens of thousands of people in the United States each year, by reducing the number of rodents that harbor this disease. But facts often play second fiddle to emotions where snakes are concerned.
Snakes are important components of biodiversity, serving as both predators and prey in nearly every ecosystem on earth. Some of the most feared and hated snakes (vipers, a group which includes rattlesnakes) may be the most effective predators on fluctuating prey populations. Unlike most predators, vipers are not territorial; they often share dens to escape freezing winter temperatures and select hunting sites where others have been successful. They live in greater densities than mammal and bird predators, as much as 100-1000 times denser than their mammalian competitors. Infrequent reproductive events (most give birth only once every two to three years) and their ability to fast make them resilient to prey population crashes. So they can have a greater impact on their prey, including those that can spread disease to humans, than their mammalian or avian counterparts.
But snakes are worth saving not because of what they can do for us, but because of who they are.
Adrian, a pregnant Arizona black rattlesnake guards one of her nestmates’ newborns. Photographed by Melissa Amarello.
Snakes, specifically rattlesnakes, share many behaviors with us, behaviors that we value. They have friends. They take care of their kids and their friends’ kids too. Within a community of Arizona black rattlesnakes, individuals do not associate randomly; they have friends (pairs of rattlesnakes observed together more often expected by chance) and individuals they appear to avoid. Mother rattlesnakes keep newborns from straying too far from the nest during the first few days of their lives, only gradually letting them explore farther as they approach time to leave the nest at 10-14 days old. They also defend their young from threats such as squirrels, who harass and may even kill newborns. But mothers aren’t the only ones caring for newborn rattlesnakes — still-pregnant females sharing the communal nest and even visiting males and juveniles assist with parental duties. Yet these gentle, caring parents are subjected to some of the most horrible treatment of any animal.
Each year, tens of thousands of rattlesnakes are taken from the wild to be displayed and slaughtered for entertainment and profit at rattlesnake roundups, which occur throughout Texas, Oklahoma, Georgia, and Alabama. Promoted as folksy, family-friendly fun, these events foster disrespect for native wildlife and the natural world, and are a gross example of wildlife management based on fear, rather than science. Professional hunters, not bound by ‘bag’ or ‘take’ limits, remove snakes from their native habitats and are awarded with cash prizes for bringing in the most and biggest snakes. Most snakes are caught by pouring gasoline into their winter dens, which pollutes surrounding land and water and may impact up to 350 other wildlife species. Rattlesnake roundups depend on the public’s misconception of snakes as dangerous pests that we cannot safely tolerate near our homes. No aspect of these events is sustainable, educational, or necessary.
If promoters and attendees of rattlesnake roundups knew what snakes are really like, would these events continue — who wants to kill a mom or someone’s friend?
World Snake Day is an opportunity to celebrate snakes and raise awareness about their conservation.
It is so easy to reach for cashew, oat, or whatever plant mylk instead of dairy milk which is forcibly taken breast milk that causes cancer.
Cows bred for milk have no freedom as they are hooked to machines all day. They are forcibly impregnated. If they produce a male he is killed right away or kept alive for a couple months for veal (in which they aren’t allowed to move because it makes their flesh more tender), if they produce a female she will live in confinement until she’s old enough to produce milk and she will live like her mother does, and then all the dairy mothers are killed at about 4 years when their bodies are worn out.
So just fuckin reach for the oat mylk or make it yourself super easily and cheaply.
Never call yourself a feminist if you are not a vegan. You cannot be pro human women but then support the torture of animals.
Watch “Dairy is Scary” on YouTube, as well as the free film Dominion with Joaquin Phoenix and Sia.
Cows may be attatched to a milking machine when being milked. They are not “stuck to a machine all day”. Many dairy cows are raised with access to pasture and you sound ridiculous making such outlandish and false claims. Males are not “killed right away”, there is literally no reason to immediately kill an animal when it can be raised for more meat. Many male calves may be raised for beef rather than veal, or raised as oxen. Stick to actual problems in the dairy industry instead of blatantly making things up. Feminism is literally about human women.
Cows are milked by machines for 10 minutes a day max, 5 minutes every 12 hours lmao. Some farms have robots that allow the cows to choose when to be milked and they may go in 3-5 times a day, and often the boss cows have to start being turned away from the machine for coming in too much. It is demonstratively not torture. Cows spend most of their time in heat-controlled, comfortably bedded free stalls with free access to feed and water. Some dairies give their cows brushes to play with.
If a cow in heat had access to a bull she’d absolutely 100% mate with him because cows in heat are driven to get pregnant. AI is just like a bull without the aggression or disease. It doesn’t ensure pregnancy, some cows don’t need to be restrained, you just can’t say it’s forced and be correct. A bull harassing a cow and repeatedly mounting her over and over again for 6-12 hours every 21 days is much more forceful than one AI sesh every 21 days.
Male calves are raised for mature beef over 90% of the time in the US. Veal is a tiny market in the US. In the UK they are usually raised to 10-12 months as rose veal. They are not killed immediately. Veal calves are no longer raised in crates in the US, but instead group pens with plenty of room to run around and play with other calves.
Heifers are usually raised in hutches while they’re on milk for disease control, because calves have weak immune systems. Calves left with their mothers or in group pens get sick more often. The pens and runs are big enough for them to run around in while they’re small. They’re there for 8 weeks, and then they’re moved to large group pens. Some places throw their heifers out on pasture with a bull. They’re hardly “confined”.
A four year old cow is a second lactation animal. They usually live longer than that, 8-10 year old or older dairy cows aren’t uncommon. Older cows make the most milk as they aren’t growing, so we want to breed for long-living cows. Holsteins aren’t a long-lived breed, most “pet” Holsteins I know of only made it to 13. Sometimes slaughter is euthanasia, like if she has incurable mastitis. Immobile/down cows cannot be put on a trailer let alone be slaughtered.
women aren’t cattle lmfao
– Milk does not cause cancer, there is 0 link between the two
OP, what the heck are you smoking?
They’re smoking all the extreme vegan propaganda and trying to make it more justified by attaching it to the very real issues human women (like myself) face. A cow is not on the same level as a human; however they do deserve respect which is why I support the meat industry undergoing better reform (specifically the factory farm issues) and I also support vat grown meat. You’d just be growing the muscles to eat-there’s no nervous system or anything like that plus it would cut down on environmental destruction.
But yeah, OP’s doing what PETA does-try to make any animal suffering on par with human when human suffering is on it’s own level. You can care about both without making them equal to each other…but that point goes over their heads.
Also if this is about ethics then let’s not forget that a lot of those vegan grains you eat are basically harvested using third world slave labor so
plus plant milks are nasty as fuck
Also most of them aren’t suitable for people with allergies
Your almond milk is depleting water supplies and causing droughts and wildfires in California.
(Yeah, Nestle’s water extraction is also to blame, but agriculture is also a major water suck, and almonds are notoriously bad that way. Some of that land could be used for less water-intensive crops if it weren’t for almond milk. Meanwhile, dairy farms are usually in wet, hilly, often northern regions that aren’t as good for growing crops. Why? Because even if you don’t tip a tractor on those hills, the growing season’s too short for more than feed crops and a little seasonal produce—I mean, you could maybe do apples or walnuts on a commercial scale, but you can’t base a stable local economy on that—but you can graze sheep or cows. I grew up on a piece of land like that. I’d know.)
Also, don’t cows udders hurt if you don’t milk them?
Listen I’m all for cruelty free foods, and I think being vegan if you can is cool, but when you spread misinformation like this you just make youself look bad.
There are real issues out there. Focus on those rather then making up fake ones, please.
And if you’re really concerned about where your milk is coming from, you can always do some research into individual milk companies and find a brand that takes really good care of it’s cows!
It is so easy to reach for cashew, oat, or whatever plant mylk instead of dairy milk which is forcibly taken breast milk that causes cancer.
Cows bred for milk have no freedom as they are hooked to machines all day. They are forcibly impregnated. If they produce a male he is killed right away or kept alive for a couple months for veal (in which they aren’t allowed to move because it makes their flesh more tender), if they produce a female she will live in confinement until she’s old enough to produce milk and she will live like her mother does, and then all the dairy mothers are killed at about 4 years when their bodies are worn out.
So just fuckin reach for the oat mylk or make it yourself super easily and cheaply.
Never call yourself a feminist if you are not a vegan. You cannot be pro human women but then support the torture of animals.
Watch “Dairy is Scary” on YouTube, as well as the free film Dominion with Joaquin Phoenix and Sia.
Cows may be attatched to a milking machine when being milked. They are not “stuck to a machine all day”. Many dairy cows are raised with access to pasture and you sound ridiculous making such outlandish and false claims. Males are not “killed right away”, there is literally no reason to immediately kill an animal when it can be raised for more meat. Many male calves may be raised for beef rather than veal, or raised as oxen. Stick to actual problems in the dairy industry instead of blatantly making things up. Feminism is literally about human women.
Cows are milked by machines for 10 minutes a day max, 5 minutes every 12 hours lmao. Some farms have robots that allow the cows to choose when to be milked and they may go in 3-5 times a day, and often the boss cows have to start being turned away from the machine for coming in too much. It is demonstratively not torture. Cows spend most of their time in heat-controlled, comfortably bedded free stalls with free access to feed and water. Some dairies give their cows brushes to play with.
If a cow in heat had access to a bull she’d absolutely 100% mate with him because cows in heat are driven to get pregnant. AI is just like a bull without the aggression or disease. It doesn’t ensure pregnancy, some cows don’t need to be restrained, you just can’t say it’s forced and be correct. A bull harassing a cow and repeatedly mounting her over and over again for 6-12 hours every 21 days is much more forceful than one AI sesh every 21 days.
Male calves are raised for mature beef over 90% of the time in the US. Veal is a tiny market in the US. In the UK they are usually raised to 10-12 months as rose veal. They are not killed immediately. Veal calves are no longer raised in crates in the US, but instead group pens with plenty of room to run around and play with other calves.
Heifers are usually raised in hutches while they’re on milk for disease control, because calves have weak immune systems. Calves left with their mothers or in group pens get sick more often. The pens and runs are big enough for them to run around in while they’re small. They’re there for 8 weeks, and then they’re moved to large group pens. Some places throw their heifers out on pasture with a bull. They’re hardly “confined”.
A four year old cow is a second lactation animal. They usually live longer than that, 8-10 year old or older dairy cows aren’t uncommon. Older cows make the most milk as they aren’t growing, so we want to breed for long-living cows. Holsteins aren’t a long-lived breed, most “pet” Holsteins I know of only made it to 13. Sometimes slaughter is euthanasia, like if she has incurable mastitis. Immobile/down cows cannot be put on a trailer let alone be slaughtered.
women aren’t cattle lmfao
– Milk does not cause cancer, there is 0 link between the two
OP, what the heck are you smoking?
They’re smoking all the extreme vegan propaganda and trying to make it more justified by attaching it to the very real issues human women (like myself) face. A cow is not on the same level as a human; however they do deserve respect which is why I support the meat industry undergoing better reform (specifically the factory farm issues) and I also support vat grown meat. You’d just be growing the muscles to eat-there’s no nervous system or anything like that plus it would cut down on environmental destruction.
But yeah, OP’s doing what PETA does-try to make any animal suffering on par with human when human suffering is on it’s own level. You can care about both without making them equal to each other…but that point goes over their heads.
Also if this is about ethics then let’s not forget that a lot of those vegan grains you eat are basically harvested using third world slave labor so
plus plant milks are nasty as fuck
Also most of them aren’t suitable for people with allergies
Your almond milk is depleting water supplies and causing droughts and wildfires in California.
(Yeah, Nestle’s water extraction is also to blame, but agriculture is also a major water suck, and almonds are notoriously bad that way. Some of that land could be used for less water-intensive crops if it weren’t for almond milk. Meanwhile, dairy farms are usually in wet, hilly, often northern regions that aren’t as good for growing crops. Why? Because even if you don’t tip a tractor on those hills, the growing season’s too short for more than feed crops and a little seasonal produce—I mean, you could maybe do apples or walnuts on a commercial scale, but you can’t base a stable local economy on that—but you can graze sheep or cows. I grew up on a piece of land like that. I’d know.)
Also, don’t cows udders hurt if you don’t milk them?
Listen I’m all for cruelty free foods, and I think being vegan if you can is cool, but when you spread misinformation like this you just make youself look bad.
There are real issues out there. Focus on those rather then making up fake ones, please.
And if you’re really concerned about where your milk is coming from, you can always do some research into individual milk companies and find a brand that takes really good care of it’s cows!
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