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People who insist that raising the dead in D&D is inherently evil are lorecucks

Dungeons and dragons settings were made to be home brewed to shit this is not an opinion

You know what here’s another ripping hot take: the only reason becoming a lich is evil is because the ritual as described in various d&d texts contains a ton of extremely evil acts as necessary steps

But you can change that

you can do anything in dnd, except have a smoothly running campaign with reliable attendance and meetup times

oh, so necromancy is just *suddenly* okay? you do realize that necromancy upsets the souls of the dead, spreads filth and disease, and most importantly, IS ONLY REALLY USEFUL FOR NEFARIOUS PURPOSES

what in gods’ name are you planning to do with those living corpses? have a tea party? pick up around the house? organize a charity bakesale? no, you’re using them to kill people. you’re reviving dead bodies to kill people, and you want undead soldiers to fight your wars for you because they don’t have “objections” or “free will” that will get in the way of your plans.

I don’t care who your fighting, even if it’s just bandits holed up in a house on the prairie, you’re committing a war crime.

But hey if you’re a coward who can’t fight your own battles, sure! dig up nancy’s grandpa and make him carry your bags! i’m sure you’d like it if someone stole your dead relative’s body and used it as cannon fodder.

Counter point- lawful good necromancer. Makes heavy use of speak with dead. Asks the departed if they have regrets or final wishes, and uses the rest to make it happen. His skeleton army? All farm hands and boring people that wanted to fight for justice and never got around to it. That vampire he just raised? The last of his knightly order, killed by a league of assassins, wants to not only get revenge, but unironically use those assassins to rebuild his order. The quest for lichdom? A quest to attain permanent guardianship of his kingdom, wanting to wait in a tomb for eternity, only to rise when his people need saving.

… listen, i don’t APPROVE of this, but… i fail to find any issues with it either.

The only issue would be that most all of the undead you can create using Create Undead and Animate Dead are soulless monsters with malign intelligence, they’re not the people they were in life and they’re evil.

It doesn’t matter if you’re being polite to the souls that have passed or giving them closure, their bodies aren’t under their control and they’re only barely under yours.

Unless you change that in your world. Here’s some piping hot tea:
Enchantment is a much more evil school of magic than Necromancy.

Sure Necromancy is all about creating undead monstrosities as outlined above, but there is also the opportunity to use Necromancy for good, as outlined above. Consider also that since you are not inherently attaching a dead person’s soul to the corpse you raise, that you aren’t particularly doing anything wrong to them. You maintain control over these undead for as long as you continue to take the effort to do so, and so imagine a city that uses its dead in a conducive manner – They raise their skeletons in order to assist with farm work, they offer those who wish to continue working for the protection of people to be brought back as ghosts or shadows to act as invisible sentinels and keep watch, etc.

Now under what circumstance is Enchantment ever anything besides bending someone’s free will to comply with what you want? You make a person incapable of free will so that they become either more amiable, complacent, or straight up act completely against their character.

Also there’s already a strong example of a good lich in D&D: baelnorns