“Capitalism drives innovation” “profit motive drives innovation”

>laughs in open source, free software, and volunteers

The idea people need the incentive of money to do things is patently ridiculous. If I didn’t need money to survive, I would not care about it, lol. Like idk if that makes sense but the reason I think in terms of money is because I need it to live, not because I have any particular attachment to my bank account or whatever.

But anyway: People will and do work really hard for no monetary gain when they enjoy what they’re doing or otherwise think it’s important or whatever.

agent-of-empathy:

dasha-loses-it:

freelancerkiwi:

questbedhead:

bahorelfanclub:

colacharm:

captainjack1999:

colacharm:

benditlikegumby:

spirit-of-science:

colacharm:

adults, while forcing all children above the age of 5 to sit still, be silent, and obey orders for 7-8 hours a day with minimal breaks, reducing their exposure to fresh air and sunlight to almost nothing, forcing them to alter their natural sleeping patterns to increase productivity, and repeatedly telling them their self worth depends on their being able to follow these instructions perfectly for 13 or more years: kids these days are so lazy! they never go outside! they never want to do anything! clearly it’s not because of us!

The way we treat children is extremely inhumane, but so many adults want to dismiss it because it’s so normalized

You… You do realize that’s what it’s like to be a working adult…? And our days are even longer.

thats because an 8 hour work day is extortion and should be illegal. next question.

Either you’ve never had a job or you’re just lazy af. There’s nothing wrong with 9 to 5 jobs. Nobody is forcing people to work them and people need the hours to make more money. People get breaks too.

Please take a biology class & get some help. People shouldnt have to do work 80% of the day to survive.

@captainjack1999

1. the eighthour work-day is cruelty

2. capitalism is forcing people to work. i could just quit my job and hang out at home – but then i would lose my house and most likely starve to death, because of the way our economy works.

3. breaks for most establishments are a mere 30 minutes for an 8-hour shift; at my first job, for a 6-hour shift, your break would only be 15 minutes and any longer shift would only get 30. studies say people are more productive if for every hour you work, you get a 15-minute break – meaning, for an 8-hour shift, you’d need an hour-long break, and so on and so forth.

the way modern society views work is unhealthy for loads of reasons, not just what i mentioned here. the fact that we’re preparing children for such a torturous lifestyle is horrific.

Also like…. small children are not adults. Small children should not be held to the same standards as adults. Even if the 8 hour work day WAS healthy, it would be inhumane to hold a small child to the same standard.

The school system was literally designed to train people for factory work back when child labour was legal so that should tell you how fucked that is

I love how y’all assume it wasn’t even worse under communism.

communism would definitely be worse but this shit ain’t right either

Also that’s (“communism is worse!”) literally not the point anyway.

tybalt-you-saucy-boi:

agent-of-empathy:

dasha-loses-it:

agent-of-empathy:

dasha-loses-it:

freelancerkiwi:

questbedhead:

bahorelfanclub:

colacharm:

captainjack1999:

colacharm:

benditlikegumby:

spirit-of-science:

colacharm:

adults, while forcing all children above the age of 5 to sit still, be silent, and obey orders for 7-8 hours a day with minimal breaks, reducing their exposure to fresh air and sunlight to almost nothing, forcing them to alter their natural sleeping patterns to increase productivity, and repeatedly telling them their self worth depends on their being able to follow these instructions perfectly for 13 or more years: kids these days are so lazy! they never go outside! they never want to do anything! clearly it’s not because of us!

The way we treat children is extremely inhumane, but so many adults want to dismiss it because it’s so normalized

You… You do realize that’s what it’s like to be a working adult…? And our days are even longer.

thats because an 8 hour work day is extortion and should be illegal. next question.

Either you’ve never had a job or you’re just lazy af. There’s nothing wrong with 9 to 5 jobs. Nobody is forcing people to work them and people need the hours to make more money. People get breaks too.

Please take a biology class & get some help. People shouldnt have to do work 80% of the day to survive.

@captainjack1999

1. the eighthour work-day is cruelty

2. capitalism is forcing people to work. i could just quit my job and hang out at home – but then i would lose my house and most likely starve to death, because of the way our economy works.

3. breaks for most establishments are a mere 30 minutes for an 8-hour shift; at my first job, for a 6-hour shift, your break would only be 15 minutes and any longer shift would only get 30. studies say people are more productive if for every hour you work, you get a 15-minute break – meaning, for an 8-hour shift, you’d need an hour-long break, and so on and so forth.

the way modern society views work is unhealthy for loads of reasons, not just what i mentioned here. the fact that we’re preparing children for such a torturous lifestyle is horrific.

Also like…. small children are not adults. Small children should not be held to the same standards as adults. Even if the 8 hour work day WAS healthy, it would be inhumane to hold a small child to the same standard.

The school system was literally designed to train people for factory work back when child labour was legal so that should tell you how fucked that is

I love how y’all assume it wasn’t even worse under communism.

communism would definitely be worse but this shit ain’t right either

~homeschool~

tbh that seems like the best option

Only if your parents have enough time/knowledge to teach you properly. My mom had a baby my second year of homeschooling so I played with blocks and dinosaur toys all day. Went back to public school after two years of alt school and knew jack shit. All my teachers were like “You should have learned this in grades 4-7 so we’ll skip that section” and I was sitting there confused because those were the years I spent playing Virtual Villagers on my ipod.

It’s very hard for one or even two people to teach all the subjects a child needs to know in life, and if your parents aren’t putting the work in (often on top of parenting other children and working their own jobs) then homeschooling is possible the worst thing you could do to your child in terms of school. There’s a reason teachers need to have a teaching degree.

From what I’ve seen, homeschooling tends to be very hit or miss. Some kids get an extreme jump start to their education, others, like me, don’t get any of the support they need and never learn a single thing.

Plus homeschool doesn’t do jack fucking shit for the fact that the modern work expectation is ridiculous. Regardless of how you were schooled and even how much school you actually completed, at the end of the day you still have to get an adult job, and many adult jobs are inhumane in their treatment.

And frankly? I’m so tired of “it wouldn’t be better under communism either so stop complaining about this concept in capitalism” as an argument. I’m sure there’s a sizable faction of people reblogging and supporting these posts about flaws in the treatment of people in capitalism because they honestly (but incorrectly) believe that communism would be better. But a lot of us, like me, simply want people to be treated better and aren’t advocating for communism. Look at my Tumblr or just ask me and it’s clear what my opinions are on communism.

“it wouldn’t be better under communism” isn’t the point. The point is that people are having unrealistic and unhealthy work expectations placed on them and it would actually increase their productivity if these expectations weren’t placed on them, if the fact that mental and physical health has been shown to go to shit when these kind of expectations are placed on people isn’t enough for you.

Capitalism is fundamentally flawed. So is communism. This isn’t really news. The point is that we need to treat everyone, both adults and children, better with regards to work expectations. I don’t see how “these expectations in capitalism are detrimental to people and we should change them” is at least inherently advocating for communism. That’s not the fucking point.

celticpyro:

higher-order:

Since it’s the 200th birthday of Karl Marx, I thought I’d let you all know that Marx never worked a real job in his life, he constantly scrounged money off of other people, especially his parents and his close friend Engels, he was lazy to the point that he rarely bathed, causing him to be covered in sores and boils, and he knocked up his housekeeper and then completely neglected the responsibility, and the baby was eventually placed in a foster home.

What an inspiring man! You can see how an ideology like Communism could originate from such a person.

Marx was a smelly boy.

officialunitedstates:

im edgy so i like communism. not the stalin kind that starved literally millions of people, and not the chinese kind that did the same. also not the cuban kind obviously. not the north korean kind either. actually, no one’s done true communism, yet, so yeah, but I like it. I like the good parts

enrique262:

Communist Tumblr: I’m gonna ignore almost a century of communist atrocities, disregard real accounts from people who live/lived under said regimes, and tell you with vague, empty words filled with smugness and contempt why it’s the best damn system in the world when applied the right way, without saying how exactly it’s supposed to be done. 

thecommunityoftrustworthysinks:

dreaming-for-meaning:

taxloopholes:

tediousgeorge:

taxloopholes:

triss19:

edmund-bjork:

triss19:

edmund-bjork:

enforced scarcity? implying there’s an infinite amount of resources?

This would imply that food, smart phones, and cloths etc. are scarce in America. Lel

I’m still somewhat confused by the notion of enforced scarcity, but this article is interesting

https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2010/01/29/overproduction-and-capitalist-crisis/

So the terrible problem with capitalism is that some times there’s over production and then the market crashes and regulates out again? How awful.

Also, Marx can screw off.

That’s not what it says at all so I’m guessing you saw the name Marx and immediately closed it.

Why is enforced scarcity a new concept to anybody ? This shit it’s the new- is not a fucking ghost story or a fairly tale

Restaurants at the end of shifts throwing out the food that hasn’t been sold/ordered and not even letting the employees take it home: enforced scarcity

Grocery stores making foods ridiculously expensive to the point where nobody can buy it , the grocery let’s the food go bad and throws it out: enforced scarcity

I could go the fuck on but u pro capitalist shit heads who mindlessly believe the shit you’ve been told since you were a kid with out ever daring to question it would still sit up here and bring up irrelevant shit

Exactly.

To be fair though isn’t this also an FDA thing?

imo all the things on that list should be fixed. you have an excess of product, give it to people in need. but them not doing that doesn’t mean the system causing that excess (capitalism) is inherently bad. i’d rather have excess in the world and be fighting to stop people throwing it out than nobody have enough