sad-eyed-lady-of-the-low-lands:

iicraft505:

sad-eyed-lady-of-the-low-lands:

iicraft505:

sad-eyed-lady-of-the-low-lands:

iicraft505:

I just unfollowed @thatautismfeel because I’m tired of their pretentious attitude. I respect it as your safe space, but quite honestly, I think we’d be helping you feel more… I don’t know how to say it without sounding “ableist”… if we reblogged your posts if we understand/relate to them.
Again, I understand wanting a safe space, and that us NTs don’t need it, but I think you’re hurting your cause more than helping it by excluding yourself from letting us relate to you. But since it’s a safe space and not an activism blog, I understand why I you wouldn’t want us there.

*disclaimer I am very neurodivergent and have a cousin disorder, but I do not have autism*

Look, ok, I don’t mean to be rude here but, there’s some things you can’t understand as an NT. there’s some things you can’t relate to as an NT, there’s some things that just aren’t FOR you as an NT. And for you to reblog posts made by ND people for ND people that you THINK you relate to is massively inappropriate. You don’t relate, you CANT relate because you will never know what it’s like to be ND and to pretend you will frankly is a mockery of actual ND people.

NT’s have the entire WOLRD to interact and relate with, and we want places where they can go and interact with other people like us and NTs still go and pitch a fit about it. There are so many relatable posts made by NT people it’s ridiculous. If you’re that desperate for relatable posts go find some of them!

It’s not pretentious to want things that are just for us. It’s not hurting the cause to have things that are just for us. We are allowed to have safe spaces. We are allowed to not want you in our safe spaces.

I mean, you said it yourself. That autism feel isn’t an activism blog, it’s a safe space. If you want posts about neurodivergence that you can reblog, follow an activism blog and use your blog to boost our voices instead of invading a safe space and complaining that it’s not for you.

If you truly understood why ND people don’t want you rebloging stuff from that autism feel when you’re NT then you would have made this post in the first place.

Look, you followed that autism feel, so I’m guessing there’s some part of you that cares about neurodivergent people, and if you do, I really hope that you can put aside feeling offended by my response and listen to what I’m saying. Because I’m not saying this to be a dick or pick a fight or whatever, I’m saying it because what you’re saying is problematic and because I hope that by telling you that I can help you understand.

I can relate to some of what they say because, guess fucking what, some of those things everyone experiences.
Also I don’t really see what’s problematic about saying I can try to understand NDs because empathy?
And look, I don’t really care that I can’t reblog the posts. I just wish there were a blog where I could boost what NDs FELT, instead of just activism.

And I totally understand a safe space and not wanting others in it. That’s cool.

And your right, while I respect it, I don’t really logically understand why boosting a feel blog wouldn’t be boosting your voices. But I suppose there are no blogs that are willing to accept that. And I’m totally fine with that.

Well, I mean, if it’s an autism feel everyone actually doesn’t experience those things, that’s sort of why it’s an AUTISM feel not just… A feel? Like you might experience something similar and usually less intense but you won’t experience what the people who made that post experience.

I’m not sure how I can say this more plainly but like, the reason autism is recognised as a thing is because autistic people’s experiences are different to yours.

And it’s problematic because people use “everyone gets like that sometimes” to dismiss our problems all the time. NT people saying they feel like that too is used to downplay our struggles and deny us accommodation. People think, well I feel like that too sometimes and I still manage so why shouldn’t you, clearly you’re just being lazy and dramatic.

And there’s plenty of activism posts that talk about how we feel that you can boost without enforcing the stuff mentioned above.

I mean, hopefully this explains it in more detail.

There are some things on the blog that may be more of a problem for autistic people, but I’m never going to back off the idea that everyone experiences them TO AN EXTENT. Some of the things, obviously, are autism only, such as overstimulation. But I’m NT and I still have a “stim toy”. So even if we can’t experience it, we can try to understand. That’s part of human evolution.
And also, saying that “everyone gets like that sometimes” is really just being ignorant to the fact that yes, everyone DOES get like that SOMETIMES. But most NDs experience it MORE or TO A HIGHER DEGREE. So, yes, us NTs can try to understand that although what you have to deal with is harder or more of a problem, we do experience it too, and that that part can help us understand you. It doesn’t practically work out that way, but that is how it should work.
So, yes, we can experience some of what you experience, although to a lesser degree.

And if you could point me to a few of these blogs, I’d be happy to listen. You can say they exist all ya’ want but until someone actually shows me one I’m going to have to assume your making things up.

 ……… Well, yes there are some things everyone experiences to an extent. But the fact that we experience it to a different extent is actually really important because it means that ND people talking about these experiences has a very different context to NT people talking about them. Like stimming as you say everyone stims but NT people don’t stim the way we do. NT people don’t flap or rock or bite, you guys don’t face discrimination for your stimming, the context between you having a stim toy is completely different to me happy flapping. 

I’m really not sure how else to explain this to you without just re-iterating stuff I’ve already, I mean you seem to have ignored my point about NT people using “everyone get’s like that” to dismiss our problems and deny us accommodations and that was really my main point and NT people reblogging our posts just reinforces this mentality which is actually harmful so. 

Yes you can absolutely try to understand, I deeply appreciate NT people that try to understand but if you can that without reblogging posts made specifically for ND people. 

I mean, its not really my job to find you blogs it’s really not that hard, my own blog has a lot of ND posts you could reblog. 

Like, you could reblog this http://sad-eyed-lady-of-the-low-lands.tumblr.com/post/138380918865/this-really-really-really-should-not-need-to-be#notes  or this http://sad-eyed-lady-of-the-low-lands.tumblr.com/post/138374975880/therere-a-lot-of-things-about-fanfiction-that-i#notes  or this http://sad-eyed-lady-of-the-low-lands.tumblr.com/post/138294119695/neurodiversity-may-be-every-bit-as-crucial-for-the#notes or this http://sad-eyed-lady-of-the-low-lands.tumblr.com/post/138157462650/neurodiversity-some-basic-terms-definitions#notes, or this http://sad-eyed-lady-of-the-low-lands.tumblr.com/post/138037215625/i-dont-want-him-to-feel-different#notes, and oh look, even more things you could reblog http://sad-eyed-lady-of-the-low-lands.tumblr.com/post/135080665215/dont-call-me-special#notes

And just to mix it up a bit I’ll link you to some stuff that’s not mine http://actuallydyspraxic.tumblr.com/post/138816916352/flowland-180-createanewworld, http://actuallydyspraxic.tumblr.com/post/138792233217/diagnosis-only-goes-so-far, http://actuallydyspraxic.tumblr.com/post/138758236837/karjothejo-lets-talk-dyscalculia-psa-even, http://actuallydyspraxic.tumblr.com/post/138720629767/message-to-neurotypical-friends, http://actuallydyspraxic.tumblr.com/post/138605043497/dont-stop-people-from-using-their-abilities I could go on,but I’m not going to because this is getting pretty long. 

 Look, you’re not going to find an ND blog where everything is for you, those blogs are always going to have things you probably shouldn’t reblog but that doesn’t mean they won’t have any posts you can reblog, especially if you’re following activism blogs instead of a blog like that autism feel. 

You seem to be ignoring the fact that I’ve agreed with basically everything you’ve said. Basically it seems we agree but word it differently.

I didn’t ignore your point about NTs saying everyone gets like that. I added to it. I said that they’re right to an extent, they’re just doing it in a way which is definitely not fine.

I’m on mobile. I can’t reblog those. If you know of a blog, I’d appreciate you telling it to me. Because if it’s not that hard you should probably already know of one. But I’ll go find them for myself, then, I guess.