datoptimist:

iicraft505:

datoptimist:

iicraft505:

Anarcho communism is cool and stuff but you do realize that human nature wouldn’t allow for it to work, right? Humans are selfish. They will try to take power.

EDIT: I don’t understand how it would work large scale. Also, I’ve backed off this argument. Also, ya’ll keep saying we’ll find the answers to how it would work later. Frankly, I’m not going to subscribe to an idea until I understand how it would work.

A lot of people would argue with you that human nature changes because of its environment. Yes that’s true..

BUT!

It also allows humans to take advantage of that situation! Right now we’re pretty much taught that greed is good?

Imagine there is an anarcho- communist revolt happening now? You don’t think there’s some lame ass like Stalin in the revolt thinking

“you know what if I convince these morons my policies are for everyone I can seize power”

Animal Farm all over. Pigs lay dormant till the opportunity arises.

Anarchy allows that to happen. There will always be some douche wanting power.

THANK YOU!

And that’s not even the only argument that I have against communism or anarchy, or anarcho communism. I don’t like capitalism, but it sure as hell is the best option currently.
I’ll only go into more detail if you want me to.

Yeah please do!

Sorry this took so long.

Basically, like I said originally, I don’t see how you would prevent someone from either riding the helm of the revolt ship or from someone taking power under the guise of being helpful. Russia is an example of this.
There’s nothing stopping a single group from becoming elitist. Sorry.

Plus, I don’t see where the desire to work hard is. In communism everyone gets the same things. Well, okay, cool.
But let’s think about this.
I’m a doctor. I’ve spent years learning how to be successful as a doctor.
But over there is… a fast food worker. We make the same amount. How is that fair? That job requires no schooling and very little training. I no longer feel the need to work hard because I can make the same with less work.
Plus, we should reward people for hard work. We shouldn’t let people struggle at the bottom while the rich get richer, but hard work should be rewarded.

Plus, communism values the arts and creativity even less than capitalism does. There’s no need for it in a communist society. At least a capitalist society values skilled artists.

Communism forces everyone to subscribe to one ideal. Especially in anarcho communism, there is no real way to not like what’s going on. And if there is, another problem with the power thing right there.

Communism is destructive. Since it forces all resources to be collected by the government, people have less of them, since they can’t keep what they need for themselves and give the rest away. This caused deaths in both communist Russia and China. Deaths.

Since a communist society has an inefficient economy, they tend to be destructive to the environment. Isn’t that of the major things capitalism is fighting against? Good going communism. Another point against you.

A communist economy is inefficient is because it doesn’t have a good way to value goods. A free market ensures checks and balances. Plus, monopolies aren’t as much of a problem anymore.

Also, Marx says goods should be valued based on their labor. That makes no sense. If goods are being valued, than so are the resources used to make them. Some very labor-intensive things cost less because THE GOODS USED TO MAKE THEM COST LESS. Also, research goes into making things, and the resources for that cost money.

Ultimately communism is one huge logic flaw after another.

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